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Farooq Sheri

Greetings; we are just about to introduce MSC servers and Media Gateways in our network and your artilce (blog) has helped answer quite a few grey areas. Thanks. Live long and prosper.

Nate Braynt

Hi Martin, this was a very useful read about TFO and TrFO. Please feel free to post other documents that expand on how the media gateways are changing as we move away from circuit switched networks.

Chetan Vinchhi

This is a very succinct yet informative write-up on TFO/TrFO. Thanks!

Between this and your other article on AMR-WB, there is some ambiguity about whether calls that use AMR-WB are amenable to TFO operation. Can you shed some light on this?

Best regards
Chetan

Martin

Hello Chetan,

For AMR-WB you need TrFO if the call runs over UMTS and TFO if the call runs over GSM.

Best regards,
Martin

amin

Hello
if an operator want to define AMR codec on BSC ,,\
and want to know the percentage of subscribers devices supporting this.. what is the distinguishing in handset ???

Martin

Hey,

the BSC, or rather the MSC, can see if a mobile is capable of AMR or not by analyzing the Vocoder Preference List which should be part of the Bearer Capability Information Element for example in a SETUP message. The mobile is AMR capable if the list includes Full Rate Codec 3 and Half Rate Codec 3.

Martin

simon

Good explanation of a tricky subject, thanks Martin. You might consider what happens when a mobile changes AMR codecs mid-call, e.g. does it renegotiate end-to-end ?

Mustafa

Hi,
In TrFO call how what is the measure of Voice Qulaity on BSC as BSC is only shipping frames it recieves from mobiles to MG on packet network. Are there standard practices to measure Voice Qulaity on TrFO call.

Mustafa

Martin

Hello Mustafa,

I haven't been involved in Voice Quality testing before. One of the companies I know that is doing this is Polystar for example. In case you are interested, go to their website and check them out.

Cheers,
Martin

L L L

Excellent review, thanks.

Sunny

Is TFrO and TFO mainly a NW funcationality? As far as UE end, if UE can support AMR rate change dynamically then it can work with TFrO/TFO enabled NW?

Martin

Hi Sunny,

thanks for the comment. TFrO and TFO are network functionalities. But what they do is to allow AMR capable mobile to communicate directly instead of with transcoders in the network. That means that if a mobile wants to change the codec it will not tell the network but directly the mobile on the other side.

There are still some questions open for me on this topic like for example the following: In GSM, the network can decide to put a connection on a half rate air interface channel. This means not all codecs will work anymore. So I wonder how the mobile on the far side knows that it can no longer use certain codecs because the other mobile is on a half rate channel. So if anybody knows the answer to this question, please leave a note.

Cheers,
Martin

Jagan

Very good Review. Thanks

Eva

Hi Martin. Thanks for this explanation. I have a simple question. Enabling TrFo in a network, could impact terminals? How does a terminal behaves? Thanks and regards.

Martin

Eva,

in theory it should be transparent to mobiles. However, I wonder how mobile B knows that mobile A is only on a half rate channel and can thus not support the higher AMR codecs. Haven't had the time to dig that deep.

Cheers,
Martin

Boris

Thanks, very good and helpfull posts (especially about TrFO/TFO, which most of the normal people do not read :) ) .

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