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Tsahi Levent-Levi

Some of your comments are valid, while others are a bit unrelated or irrelevant.
The issue of the audio codec used, for example, is quite irrelevant. Pure SIP implementations today actually do G.729 as well, which is quite optimized and there's nothing to stop an implementation to choose whatever codec it wishes.
Others, such as security and scalability are at the heart of the difference.
IMS is an architecture of a network - it is how an operator can take IP based services and scale them up by being flexible in all aspects - security, quality of service, billing, adding services, etc.
SIP is simply a protocol that can be used to open sessions. IMS utilizes SIP while adding architectural layers around it to make it robust enough for operators.

That's at least my view of things.

Dean Bubley

Hi Martin

Speaking as the guy who first coined the term "naked SIP", I agree with some of your points, but it's important to bear a number of other things in mind:

- firstly, naked SIP on a handset is especially useful when connected over WiFi, particularly to a non-operator VoIP platform like an enterprise PBX.
- secondly, naked SIP is useful for non-VoIP applications like 'off portal' IM, presence and so forth. Many of these applications do not have the QoS or realtime requirements of VoIP
- thirdly, most innovative application developers are not going to want to develop to network equipment vendors' IMS platforms, even if SDKs and other tools are available. They're also not going to want to negotiate separately with 300 global IMS operators to get their application rolled out. Using Naked SIP via an Internet connection is an awful lot easier
- there are various pseudo-IMS / pre-VCC applications that will do various sorts of handovers to 2G or other networks
- it's very difficult to add IMS applications to a handset as most IMS client frameworks are proprietary. You can't just drop an Ecrio IM client onto an Ericsson or Comneon IMS platform for example. Putting SIP in an open OS like Symbian means it's available for any 3rd-party app.
- it's possible to use a proprietary VoIP client & protocol on the device, which connects to a SIP proxy server. This can reduce the VoIP bandwidth requirement substantially. Fring does this, for example.

I could go on.....

... but put simply, both IMS and Naked SIP have important roles to play eventually. But as you point out, it's Naked SIP that's here & now in millions of devices.

Jeroen van Bemmel

I don't see the contradiction in the title, there is nothing that prevents a "naked SIP" terminal to register with an IMS core network (using standard MD5 authentication), provided of course that the user has an account

Reda

Hi Martin,
unfortunately I agree more with the comments (especially the first comment) than your post. In particular, I don't see these two technologies (and their future) as opposed to each other and also don't think that the current SIP presence in the mobile market will necessary translate into widespread consumer adoption.
-Reda

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