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Ed

SON: Self Organizing (Optimizing) Networks will allow for the automation of several tasks lowering the OPEX costs. Examples include plug and play, neighbour recognition and configuration, optimizations and others.

JR

Have you noticed that Nokia Siemens Networks provides a solution known as "Internet HSPA" (or I-HSPA) that is a flat WCDMA network without RNC. Works with any standard HSDPA enabled phone.

Martin

Hi JR,

Interesting comment. Yes, I heard of it, it goes even further than the standardized one tunnel solution. I've blogged about it here:

http://mobilesociety.typepad.com/mobile_life/2008/10/first-one-tunnel-network-cited-in-the-wild.html

Best regards,
Martin

Martin

Hi Ed,

yes, your are right! SON, how could I have forgotten that!?

Cheers,
Martin

Jarkko

The NSN I-HSPA follows the 3GPP R7 "Flat Architecture", It is standards compliant and offers the same Iu-PS interface as a normal RNC does.

I-HSPA uses IP based transport, so the actual transport medium is free for the operator to select, thus allowing the optimal choice for each country/city. This will surely reduce costs of HSPA.

SAE will bring benefits, but they are/will be largely available to HSPA as well (I-HSPA sort of proves it).

So my question is. After spectral efficiency, what costbenefit does LTE bring that cannot be done in an HSPA network?

For I-HSPA, see http://www.nokiasiemensnetworks.com/NR/rdonlyres/557667D8-30C8-4A5F-A44B-A3E179AD743B/0/Flat_Architecture_flyer_LoRes.pdf
Regs, Jarkko

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jarkko

my understanding is that, if you dig beyond, mktg. glossies the NSN i-hspa does not *eliminate* the rnc. it just moves it out of the data path, which goes directly to the GGSN... so it is a variant of the 3GPP standard where only the SGSN is bypassed...

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Jarkko

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You're right in that the RNC isn't (cannot be) removed. It actually says so in the glossies as well. I've worked on I-HSPA equipment so this is familiar stuff.

But in this case the RNC is distributed to the sites. Thus you don't need a big RNC to handle varying loads from multiple node-Bs, you can optimise for one site and eliminate ATM. Thus it _should_ save costs in many of the places Martin outlined as cost-saving locations for LTE (backhaul etc.).

With the elimination of RNC in LTE, is truly removed or is the functionality embedded into the LTE Node-B (like I-HSPA does with HSPA)? If the latter, where is the true benefit of LTE except bandwith flexibility at the air interface? Where do we get the most cost savings: LTE or SAE? SAE can be implemented to a large extent in HSPA?

Gabriel Brown

Obviously I'm comming a bit late to this. Apart from all the technology improvements already mentioned here and elsewhere, the biggest factor is network loading.

Adding paying, active users to a network (which is primarily fixed cost) is the surest way to reduce cost-per-bit, even if absolute costs increase.

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