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David

Hello Martin,
Tome it feels a bit strange that you discuss only the transport of signalling and then conclude with definitions including the transport of voice, maybe some details on voice could be interesting. Also, "traditional" or "origins" of circuit switching come from 19th century while SS7 was specified in 1980. Then, I am not sure SCTP/IP creates a single path, so "virtual circuit switching" is a bit misleading, while it is fully accurate for ATM (above which M3UA was operating through SSCOP & AAL5).
One question: what were the motivations for the change? Cheap IP link availablity? Something else?

Rohit

Martin

Thanks for explaining this. So you mean today even if we say voice is CS, it still can be virtual CS ? Since you say that shared link is used to carry voice in case of virtual CS, how is the QoS contraints for voice guarenteed. Meaning by things like jitter ? Voice frames are created every 20ms so how exactly would the conditions be met ?

You can also point me to material that explains this in detail .

Rohit

Martin

Hi David,

thanks for your comments. The voice part of BICN is described at the beginning of the post. As this change is pretty much straight forward (replacement of the connection matrix), there's not as much to say about it as about the signaling changes.

Agreed, when going even further back, there's tradition before SS-7 :-)

Yes, you are right, at the beginning it would be good to mention why the architecture has changed. In my opinion, because running two different types of networks alongside each other becomes more expensive every day.

Thanks!
Martin

Martin

Hi Rohit,

not sure if how to ensure QoS is specified for this application. It could be by oversubscription or by some other means. Not sure where to start looking for that.

Kind regards,
Martin

Steve Carr

Martin -

I think your description is incomplete and the term “Virtual circuit switching over IP” is not so relevent for the following reasons.

With BICN, only the core uses IP, and the radio is still circuit switched. Thats why the DTAP is unchanged.

In fact, (I think) for a call between two handsets controlled by the same MSC, the call would stay circuit switched, or at least be switched between two media gateways controlled by the same MSC without BICC. BICC would only get used for a call needing to transit between two different MSCs.

Only when the radio network is changed to IP - for LTE, or for VoIP over HSPA, would you need to change DTAP. In fact, for pure IP, you would use the SIP protocol of IMS instead of DTAP. Then you would have end-to-end VoIP.

There is also work in 3GPP to define CS over HSPA, where virtual circuits are carried over IP over the air interface. In this case, DTAP is still used, but I assume it would have to be modified to indicate virtual circuits. Another approach for IP over the air interface is VoLGA.
Both these would fit the label “Virtual circuit switching over IP”.

Steve

Martin

Hi Steve,

very insightful comment, thanks a lot! You are right, I should include the following additions:

-Rather than just explaining BICN the whole thing should be extended to say "The Thoughts behind BICN and SS-7 Over IP", to also include the evolution of SS-7 signaling e.g. to the HLR from MTP to IP.

-I think over time, the Iu(cs) and A-Interface will migrate over IP. 3GPP standards are in place now. I assume Abis and Iub will also be transported over IP once network operators start the transfer from E-1/T-1 links to broadband when the demand for Internet connectivity rises beyond their current capacity. At this point, everything except the air interface would be IP based, no more circuit switching anywhere.

-I think even for the case today were a call doesn't leave an MSC-S / MGW site, things have already changed since the physical switching matrix has gone and the media gateway packetizes everything as soon as it arrives at an external interface.

Thanks again, appreciate it very much!

Martin

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