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DavidL

Hi Martin,
I've been registered to FON and sharing my home connection for years. Even after locating a hotspot on their map and which was marked as recently active, I had to try 5 before I found one in range and where connection succeeded. And almost no one ever connected to my FON router (close Paris suburb, 5th floor, I could well connect in the street), I had about 10 connections from one user in 2008, none before, none in 2009.

About SFR, they advertise their partnership with FON, there are neuf boxes on FON maps, but I never could access any. Maybe the SFR subscriber has to manually activate the feature, unlikely that a significant number of them do it.

About Free, yes, there is shared access. But the wifi signal of the freebox is really weak, I use my Fonera at home, not the freebox. I have reactivated the wifi of the freebox recently to share my connection this way, but given the signal level I think this is useless.

So I purchased a pay-per-day Bouygues 3G stick just in case, but I got so much used to no connection on the go that I hardly ever use it.

Topper Harley

I use the Free WiFi, which works well and the coverage is good. I live in Paris, though.

DavidC

Yes, I can confirm that SFR customers have to specifically activate the FON sharing service on their boxes otherwise they are only sharing their network with other Neuf/SFR customers.

Martin, actually I believe that switching between operator provided WiFi and 3G is possible with the iPhone 0S 3.0.
While digging in the advanced settings for the EasyWiFi functionality it seems like there is provision for automated authentication using certificates or credentials in carrier specific settings.

Even without EasyWiFi on the iPhone it should be possible for operators to deploy WiFi with WPA2 and EAP-SIM and have phones automatically authenticate using the SIM parameters.

Martin

Hi David,

thanks for the reply. Hm, your usage pattern it's telling concerning the state of mobile Internet access in France. Pricing is not interesting so you get used to not using the 3G stick. Now compare that to Austria. Here you pay 20 euros for 1GB of data valid for one year. Here, you get used to using it quite often without thinking about it...

Cheers,
Martin

Martin

Hi David,

Interesting. I wonder if they are using EAP-SIM in some countries... If I have the chance it would make for an interesting Wireshark Wi-Fi tracing session to see what is going on.

Kind regards,
Martin

Brighton42

An unlimited 3G+ data plan cost 30€ per month in France. Not sure how it compares with Austria. However, it is the same price as a triple play ADSL access, which seems to be the reference for pricing the mobile option.
When talking about Free, I think one should highlight that Free is an ISP and does not have a radio network. Hence, their motivations are different to say a mobile operator.

Martin

Hi Brighton42,

Thanks for the comment. Yes, you are right, unlike SFR who has a 3G network, Free doesn't have one, at least not yet...

So their approach to DSL and Wi-Fi comes from the fixed line world compared to SFR, who is a wireless network operator who's bought fixed line DSL asset (ClubInternet) recently and now probably works on an integrated strategy.

Similar things have happened elsewhere, like for example Germany where Vodafone and Arcor have now fully joined or O2/Telefonica having both a 3G and DSL network. However, they haven't so far worked on a Wi-Fi sharing deal.

Which plan from which operator would you recommend for the €30 per month (personal interest)? The difference to Austria: It's postpaid and per month while in Austria 20 euros buys you 1-3 GB valid for a year. A great thing for casual users who are probably much more numerous than those users willing to pay 30 euros a month for doing a lot (or little) with it.

Thanks again,
Martin

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