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Stefan Constantinescu

So this isn't a case of a bar buying a femto and then everyone getting coverage, we're in the archaic period of having to register our mobile phones with a particular femto and it'll never work with any other femto.

Am I getting that right?

Sendil Kumar

@Stefan : It depends what level of access control is set-up in the femto. By default the femto will be configured for open-access with priority to pre-authorized mobiles. But a femto-owner can disable open access through O&M or simple http access as in WiFI-access router configuration

mobilesociety

Hi Stefan,

there are three different modes femtos can be used that are described in the specifications. The first is the fully open mode and such a femto can be used by all subscribers. Great for public places. The opposite is the Closed Subscriber Group or CSG cell. As the name implies thats for private use, i.e. for your appartment and you dont want to share with your neighbors. And then theres the mode in between that allows everyone access but the owner has priority.

Cheers,
Martin

Zahid Ghadialy

Hi Martin,

Regarding your questions:

>> How can mobiles find the femtos when they are on the 3G macro layer

The Femto's will be more of detected cells rather than monitored cells. The network will give an option to find and use detected cells.

If the Femto's become part of Monitored cells then there will be a problem because there can be a long list of monitored cells.

Due to the SON feature, each Femto will try and pick a unique code so as to avoid interference and this can change if a new Femto comes up or the Femto restarts (or crash ;)

>> how does the femto get rid of users which do not belong to the subscriber group, i.e. everyone except the owner and his/her family and friends?

I think the simplest solution is to force the UE to send IMSI in UE Identity duing RRC Connection Request for Registration and once you check if the IMSI is not part of the allowed IMSI's then you send RRC Connection Reject with not allowed to camp on or some similar cause.

I am sure there are better approaches that are being used but the above solutions are simple and practical.

Agreed about the Forbidden LAC problem. Havent looked into it.

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